More Spin: We the People Do Owe the Money

Playing with Words- More Spin out of the Unions:

The unions would have you believe that the money put in the retirement accounts is theirs and not the publics. That they in fact put 100% of the money in the account and that there is no match. They would claim that the money is actually a part of their salary plan. Ok, then the 1 trillion ($1,000,000,000.00) diff between the owed amount to fund the retirement and the actual amount set aside by the union is not due. Set aside amounts $2.35 Trillion which the union membership has put in the account should be what they get to use to fund retirements. But oh no they want the $3.35 Trillion that the state says it will cost to pay for their retirements. You can not have it both ways.

The fraud that was perpetuated against the American people by the union-democrat power elite was 10 times more massive than the scheme that put Madoff in Jail for 150 years. Remember the scheme:

Union/Democrat Money Flow

in simpler terms. The politicians stole money from us and gave it to the unions for votes. They used our money to create a system that was not and is not able to sustain itself. The politicians new it and they just did not care. They got theirs and we did not. Minnesota has its great example in James Oberstar. He came congress with a salary and no personal wealth, and left after 35 years of power and union deals, (he represented the Iron Workers, Steel Worker, Ship Building unions ) with at least 7 Million dollars of personal wealth. Now everybody would say he is above doing anything illegal. As Clinton said ( it all depends on what is is). Corruption is not necessarily illegal but it is always wrong. The union supporters over the past 35 years, to include President Kennedy whose vote to allow the public employees to collectively bargain gained him the White House, was as corrupt as the day is long.

Keep the Focus in Wisconsin

The Dick Morris Poll (dickmorris.com)
They support many aspects of the proposal by significant numbers:

"VOTERS SUPPORT CHANGING THE BENEFITS TO STATE WORKERS, PAY, AND AUTOMATIC DEDUCTION OF UNION DUES

• By 74%-18%, they back making state employees pay more for their health insurance.
• By 79%-16%, they support asking state workers to contribute more toward their pensions.
• By 54%-34%, Wisconsin voters support ending the automatic deduction of union dues from state paychecks and support making unions collect dues from each member.
• By 66%-30%, they back limiting state workers’ pay increases to the rate of inflation unless voters approve a higher raise by a public referendum."

I was listening to the Jefferson Hour (jeffersonhour.org) on public radio out of Fargo, ND and was impressed with a number of answers that the actor playing Jefferson gave as he responded to the audiances questions: For example: what do you think of the "professional politicians" of today. His response was very negative. He did not think that there should be any. His reponse to the simulus etc.: He indicated that Government should not give money away to the people. He indicated that what is give can be take away. He also indicated that there should be no Obama care or anything like it. Even to the point of dying. He indicated that Government should not be in the business of taking care of us.

All of what was portrayed on the show came and was consistant with what Jefferson wrote in the Federalist papers and other Jefferson correspondence. Nice to see on Public Radio a Jeffersonian Show that is accurate regarding what he did say.

The CBO released the figures regarding the stimulus money. $225'000.00 per Job. Way to go congress. This money like all the other money was nothing more than political patronage from a democratic controlled congress. The unions, teachers, auto industry, state, county and federal unions were once again bought and sold. If we do not stop the money trail by term limiting our representative in our government none of this will stop overtime. All politicians over time will vote to be reelected if it means more money and power. It is a human frailty and flaw. Jefferson and the founding fathers say this as essential in the government that we have civilian representations not professionals.

Make no mistake that term limits is the key. It will stop in its tracks: Speical Interest: The Election Money Flow, National Elections that last 2 years; The use of tax payer dollars for political special interest; reduce the size of government over time; allow politicians to work across the isle in our interests; stop making Millionaires out of politicians ( Oberstar MN 35 years in congress and left worth at least 7 million, came to congress with nothing, Clintons came with little and now are worth over 100 million and many others to include Republicans etc. This level of political corruption is no different than in Europe when the Duke, Counts etc had all the power and all the money because the King let them. We fought a war to stop it and I hope we will once again fight a political war to stop it here. Term Limits would go a long way in stopping this. The politicians know this and therefore it is not high on their list. They have no self regulation therefore we need to regulate them and how they spend our money.

Spin Spin Spin. Do not use facts they can hurt you

Typical Spin regarding Wisconsin Budget Proposal:

"Walker wants to remove all collective bargaining rights, except for salary, for roughly 175,000 public employees starting July 1. Any requests for a salary increase higher than the consumer price index would have to be approved by referendum."

We pay them why shouldn't we (the taxpayer have something to say about it. It is our money not the elected officials, and besides, the elected officials have a clear conflict of interest in the negotiations. You give me money (contributions) I give you money (pay increase, benefit increase )

I have had some interesting comments on the last blog. I guess it would help if people knew that Walker wants to remove the collective bargaining rights for the health and retirement benefits that have become extraordinary for Public Employees. In Minnesota the legislature has pass legislation under a democratic major with a democratic Governor that does not allow by law the state to change any collective bargaining agreement even if the state is broke the public employees in Minnesota will get paid. Somebody is going to have to print the money but it would be breaking the law to not a pay them in Minnesota. The unions are afraid, that the people paying them, not the legislators, will take will see the grab for the pie for what it was. The legislators needed votes so the gave the store and the land and their sole to the unions with all the money and benefits they wanted. Is all the legislators and other public officials wanted was their vote. Even if the the elected officials knew the reality of the cost of such they did not care because all they wanted was to be reelected. And until recent times they were. We are broke as a town, county, state, or union. Are elected officials of old sold us down the river and the unions grabbed just as the rest of the greedy grabbed for all they could get not for what was reasonable. Therefore the unions were complicit in the deceit of the elected official and should pay some of the same price. 87 congressman were thrown out of office because we can no longer live in a society that spins everything towards the end of reelection as the ultimate goal. Voting blocks such as the unions, and other special interest, have grown so powerful they think they can stop government and the work that needs to be done just to survive.

So what have we now. The unions, supported by Obama, are protesting in the capitol of a number of states. The legislatures of two of the states have the Democrats leaving their responsibilities and hiding in another state. Do you think there is an unholy alliance between the unions and the democrats. The unions are looking out for themselves, the dems are looking out for the unions, the unions vote for the dems and the dems vote salary and benefits for the public employees union. WHO IS LOOKING OUT FOR THE PERSON WHO PAYS THE MAJORITY OF MONEY TO MAKE ALL OF THE ABOVE HAPPEN.

This is not a battle over child labor, railroad or auto or steel fairness and safety in the work place. This is about an industry that is in decline (government) because we are broke and we only have access to borrowed money to pay the governments current and future obligations. When the steel industry was in the same shape it moved overseas because it was cheaper to produce steel their. The same has been true for all other industries. The industry has found ways to move forward with less cost and innovation. Not the public employees however. They just want to be paid no matter what and they want to be paid and taken care of for life no matter what. If I could sue the elected officials that did this to us I would but we can not. But we can stand up and right the ship no matter. If the dems want out they should leave the legislature or they will be replaced next cycle with citizens that do not need the union vote and are term limited anyway.

Consitutional Is Constiutional Not Negotialbe

Article IV, Section 4 of the Constitution, states: “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government:

What in the world does President Obama think he is doing in Wisconsin. He has a constitutional requirement to support and protect the Constitutional government of Wisconsin. He is suppose to make sure the government in Wisconsin is able to function. Even thought he is not using American troops to stop the Legal, constitution functioning of the WI government he is using his office and its prestige to interfere with the Constitution functioning of a State Government. Anybody who supports the cowardice of the Dems in Wisconsin that have taken it on the lamb should have there head examined. This is what causes anarchy and we look, and are acting no better than the governments of the world that we call third world. When, a number of years ago, the Texas Dem did the same thing, the cost was high. The financial cost to WI for this behavior alone is enormous. The loss of the ability to Govern is catastrophic. Everyone of the Dems that have left town should be recalled now. The Governor should speak directly to the President and tell him to butt out. He has enough problems with his own constitutional duties. Just take a look at the world. Foreign policy is his constitutional job, and what a job he is doing. Their is rioting and rebellion all over the middle east and China with, murder, nuclear proliferation, pirates, corruption and two wars. I guess he wanted to take some time out to support his liberal base and the unions and not pay attention to what he was supposedly elected to do.

If we had term limits most of this would not be happening. The White House could pay attention to what it is suppose to be doing and not have to attend to a special interest (unions). The unions could not bring a state to a political standstill because they would not have the support of one branch of our federal government that is financially owned by the unions.

The Obama, Pelosi, Reid connection to what is happening in WI is beyond belief. WE ARE BROKE. They think they, who do not even represent that state, should have a whole lot to say about what is happening there. Like the President, Pelosi and Reid must not have enough of the peoples business to do. They seem to want to spend way more political capitol, time and money in doing the bidding of those who have bought and paid for them. The unions are only requiring them to do what is bought and paid for. It was a bargain made in hell but a bargain is a bargain no matter what the cost is to this country as a whole. Term Limits would solve all these problems. We would get rid of the ruling political class (Duke Reid, Duchess Pelosi, and our Sovereign Obama. If we had a citizen controlled congress not a union controlled congress then we may get the peoples work done once again.

It is My Money not Yours

Quote for the Day; “To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” – Thomas Jefferson

To have the state collect money from me even though I do not agree with how it is spent by my union bosses seems to me to be a silly as giving money to congress so they can reelect themselves. There needs to be some term limits in the Unions as well as in congress. If you had term limits in the unions you would not have the corruption that is currently and historically been a integral part of union business. Not the business of the constituents but the business of the leadership. Sounds just like congress to me. They take your money and use as they see fit. That is they use your money as they see fit. They do not use your money as you see fit or for what it was originally intended. Sounds like congress. Maybe the unions and congress have some of the same agenda's namely getting reelected. Not service to the people but to keep the offices in Washington DC and to have the perks that come with the job especially the power to do as you please with others money.

I guess I have two question to ask today: How many poor working class congressman do you know. Maybe they need to walk a mile again. Two, how many poor working class union bosses do you know beyond your local reps. If you answer is similar to mine then maybe it is time for term limits in the unions. Then maybe the work of the people can once again be done with out the hidden agenda of just getting reelected.

As Always We Pay They Play

What is happening in WI is unconscionable. They teachers are costing the people a ton of money. They want to protest but not loose pay. Typical thinking of a nonthinking union boss. Pay me for working pay me for not working. I want what I want and you should have to pay for it. Just two examples of the teacher fraud in WI. The SEIU (Service Employees International Union)has now set demonstrations in at least 20 other states. The cost to the public could be astronomical.

"As Milwaukee Public School teachers left their classrooms to march in Madison Friday, they likely earned more than $3 million to not teach students in Wisconsin’s largest school district.

In Madison, the school district was closed for three days after hundreds of teachers engaged in a mass sick-out so they could attend protest rallies at the State Capitol. That could cost the district $2.7 million."

I have sympathy for the individual teacher who is doing his job and trying to get by just like the rest of us. I have no sympathy for the unions who are importing other union persons from around the country to hold a state government hostage. They should get out of that state and take care of there own business. I hope there is a back lash to the efforts currently underway in WI.

SEIU protests

2/21 – Helena, MT
2/21 – Carson City, NV
2/21 – Raleigh, NC
2/21 – Austin, TX
2/21 – Madison, WI
2/22 – Sacramento, CA
2/22 – Denver, CO
2/22 – Des Moines, IA
2/22 – Annapolis, MD
2/22 – Boston, MA
2/22 – Springfield, MA
2/22 – St. Paul, MN
2/22 – Santa Fe, NM
2/22 – Columbus OH
2/22 – Providence, RI
2/22 – Montpelier, VT
2/22 – Madison, WI
2/23 – Hartford, CT
2/23 – Atlanta, GA
2/23 – Scranton, PA
2/24 – Canton, OH

Do not let them own the public square any-longer.

Dems Running for the Woods

I am personally ashamed to report that some of the Wisc. Dem's that are hiding out are in Minnesota. Makes sense we are the home of the big three "super left socialists (Dayton, Klobuchar, Franken). They would be as safe in Minnesota as Sudam's people were in Syria. I think our Governor should make sure they know they are not welcome to hide here while their state goes up in flames. He will not. Maybe the Minnesota legislature could pass a statement of "not welcome". They were elected to do a job in Wisconsin, and if they do not want to do it then they should be recalled by the voters. Once again the chief brain dead congresswomen from California has weighted in. She (Pelosi) has commended the other brain dead WI legislators for running to wherever they ran to. Oh so tricky on their part to leave so there is not a quorum as if that is going to stop the political process. The Governor of WI should send the state troopers after them and return them to the capitol. Probably not. It would not look good to the media even if it was the right thing to do. I hope that they all loss their jobs in the next election. They should. Cowards. What a great argument for term limits. If just one of these coward is reelected that would be the best reason to term limit all legislators. They are elected to serve not run. It is obvious they only want there way and are beholding to a special interest. If they were not they would have stayed put in their state. The power of the unior needs to be broken. Its hold on the Dems is unhealthy for our political process. Walker is correct in attempting to have the state not collect the union dues. What if a church wanted the state to collect the dues for them. How silly is this that the state actually acts as the collection agent for the unions. What form of logic was used to make this decision. Maybe the logic of "it will help me get elected because I will now have a special interest that is beholding to me because we got the money collect for them by us. " brilliant political strategy by the unions.